Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru
 
 

Go Back   Guild Wars Forums - GW Guru > The Inner Circle > The Riverside Inn

Notices

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old Jan 14, 2008, 05:57 PM // 17:57   #1
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Advertisement

Disable Ads
Default Why does GW Guru promote something that is against the EULA?

I notice at the top of the forum pages "advertisements" of places to BUY GW GOLD!! Why is this allowed here? It's a violation of the GW EULA.
Master Knightfall is offline  
Old Jan 14, 2008, 05:59 PM // 17:59   #2
Forge Runner
 
Coridan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: US
Guild: Old Married Gamers {OMG}
Profession: W/
Default

guru has to pay for its services some how... i don't think it hurts anything
Coridan is offline  
Old Jan 14, 2008, 06:09 PM // 18:09   #3
Wilds Pathfinder
 
Alexandra-Sweet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: That one place with the trees, mountains and snow
Guild: Ember Power Mercenaries [EMP]
Profession: Me/
Default

I don't think the EULA says anything about fansites and their advertisements.

Anyway, Guru needs these advertisements to keep this site running.
Alexandra-Sweet is offline  
Old Jan 14, 2008, 06:12 PM // 18:12   #4
Grotto Attendant
 
Mordakai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kyhlo
Profession: W/
Default

Hmm, this is new isn't it?

I don't remember seeing "Buy Gold" on GURU before, and respected them for that.
Mordakai is offline  
Old Jan 14, 2008, 06:13 PM // 18:13   #5
Desert Nomad
 
Tatile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus
Profession: N/Me
Default

I think it's also due to the fact that the adverts may be outsourced. For example, Guru has a contract with an advertsing provider, they pay Guru money to put adverts on the Guru site/forums that they have, in turn, been paid to advertise on the internet. The advertising provider probably doesn't care about the content as long as it doesn't break certain specific contract parts (eg pornographic content is no-no).

I'm just guessing at this, of course.
Tatile is offline  
Old Jan 14, 2008, 06:14 PM // 18:14   #6
Ascalonian Squire
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Default

Gold ads are prohibited for any site wanting to wear the official "elite fansite" tag (for obvious reasons). Which is why atm there are no ads. I guess the admins have disabled them while trying to sort out how the gold ads got through, and remove them from rotation.
Lensor is offline  
Old Jan 14, 2008, 06:15 PM // 18:15   #7
Forge Runner
 
Darkobra's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Scotland
Guild: Type like an idiot, I'll treat you like an idiot
Profession: E/Me
Default

They've been up for a while. If I remember right, they said something about them not having control over their adverts. Either that, or it was another site I pulled up about it. Hard to keep track now.
Darkobra is offline  
Old Jan 14, 2008, 06:16 PM // 18:16   #8
Forge Runner
 
Longasc's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Default

This practice is common, which does not make it better.

As Tatile explained, Guru just says "It is not us, it is our provider! But we will tell them to remove this particular ad." So you can stay an Elite Fansite - you do not have gold ads, it is all the evil ad content provider, mostly google ads.

Requesting to remove the add in question takes some time, if it happens at all, which is also not in Guru's responsibility, as it is up to the ad provider to do this or not. They can just tell them.


So you can be totally against gold-selling ads and still have them.

The alternative is not to cooperate like this, but money is needed and in the end always wins over moral values. :>
Longasc is offline  
Old Jan 14, 2008, 06:17 PM // 18:17   #9
Jungle Guide
 
Trub's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Sitting in the guildhall, watching the wallows frolic.
Guild: Trinity of the ascended [SMS]+[Koss]+[TAM]=[ToA]
Default

Hey Inde!!
The 117 didn't get a pity party on guru..so they gonna drag this forum down with them!!
Grow up .....please.
Wait for your ticket responses.
Guru has nothing to do with the support team..><
Trub is offline  
Old Jan 14, 2008, 06:20 PM // 18:20   #10
Furnace Stoker
 
Skyy High's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Profession: R/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Expectations of an official Guild Wars site
The Expectations

All fansites in the Guild Wars Community Fansite Program member site must agree to the following:

To meet and uphold high standards for quality for content and design
To abide by the legal requirements stated in the Terms of Use
To display the appropriate copyright, logo, and legal information and to attribute content and news post from the official site
To assure that site content reflects positively upon the company and the game
To attribute news from the official site clearly so that there is no confusion between official news and fansite news
To disallow and remove links or promotion of adult (pornographic) sites, sites that provide or support software hacking or piracy, sites that support, advertise or offer in-game items for real currency, and sites that encourage game cheating
To moderate forums and live chat rooms to enforce reasonable behavior standards
To assure that all staff members behave appropriately and to make staffing decisions that assure that the entire site staff is fully in support of the program, the site, and most importantly, the community
To abide by the game's User Agreement and Rules of Conduct
*coughcough*

[edit] for holy crap I didn't mean to copy all of that, and I'm glad they removed the link.
Skyy High is offline  
Old Jan 14, 2008, 06:22 PM // 18:22   #11
Forge Runner
 
garethporlest18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Guild: [HiDe]
Profession: W/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trub
Hey Inde!!
The 117 didn't get a pity party on guru..so they gonna drag this forum down with them!!
Grow up .....please.
Wait for your ticket responses.
Guru has nothing to do with the support team..><
Um the OP is just a troll and has nothing to do with the 117 if you check his post in their thread.
garethporlest18 is offline  
Old Jan 14, 2008, 06:26 PM // 18:26   #12
Krytan Explorer
 
Uber Mass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: The Netherlands
Guild: retired from gw [agro] still ftw
Profession: W/
Default

ah... another i dont agree with Anet im gonna cry about everything topic
Uber Mass is offline  
Old Jan 14, 2008, 06:33 PM // 18:33   #13
Desert Nomad
 
Tatile's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Guild: Stygian Disciples of Tenebrasus
Profession: N/Me
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Longasc
...google ads...
The bane of fans and fansites the internet over. If this is where Guru are getting their adverts from, it's not uncommon for 'unsavory' adverts to slip through. I beleive it happened around the release of the Third Star Wars movie, a web-comic artist (and avid Star Wars fan) got some complaints from readers that there was a Google advert for illegal copies of the movie just beneath his comic (the Google advert spot). He removed the advert from his site for a while, as he was in discussion with Google about the advert.

Google provides adverts based on the content of the pages, so words such as 'gold', 'buying' and 'selling' will probably flag these gold selling adverts up to put on the site.

However, I'm sure a forum mod will have more to say on this, and more accuratly as well.
Tatile is offline  
Old Jan 14, 2008, 06:35 PM // 18:35   #14
Krytan Explorer
 
Uber Mass's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: The Netherlands
Guild: retired from gw [agro] still ftw
Profession: W/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tatile
The bane of fans and fansites the internet over. If this is where Guru are getting their adverts from, it's not uncommon for 'unsavory' adverts to slip through. I beleive it happened around the release of the Third Star Wars movie, a web-comic artist (and avid Star Wars fan) got some complaints from readers that there was a Google advert for illegal copies of the movie just beneath his comic (the Google advert spot). He removed the advert from his site for a while, as he was in discussion with Google about the advert.

Google provides adverts based on the content of the pages, so words such as 'gold', 'buying' and 'selling' will probably flag these gold selling adverts up to put on the site.

However, I'm sure a forum mod will have more to say on this, and more accuratly as well.
My guildforum has also goldadds... so its prolly based on the content yes
Uber Mass is offline  
Old Jan 14, 2008, 06:36 PM // 18:36   #15
Grotto Attendant
 
Mordakai's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Kyhlo
Profession: W/
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uber Mass
ah... another i dont agree with Anet im gonna cry about everything topic
ehh, what?

This has NOTHING to do with Anet. It's Guru's own policies that are the problem...

if Guru and Inde have no problem buying gold, then all's fair.
Mordakai is offline  
Old Jan 14, 2008, 06:37 PM // 18:37   #16
Doctor of Philosophy
 
Billiard's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Pacific Northwest
Guild: Team Love [kiSu] www.teamlove.us
Default

We do our best to make sure our provider doesn't put up unacceptable ads, but as mentioned sometimes it takes time to correct things. To the best of my knowledge this is an issue any fansite using ads faces, which is why we tried other means of generating revenue for a long time.

Anyway, this has been discussed pretty extensively here and other places, so closing this thread.
Billiard is offline  
Closed Thread

Share This Forum!  
 
 
           

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
WTB spam = ban; leeching = promote?! Servant of Kali The Riverside Inn 108 Jun 28, 2007 08:21 AM // 08:21
morimoto The Riverside Inn 78 Mar 20, 2007 07:51 PM // 19:51
Is it Against the EULA... Beat_Go_Stick Questions & Answers 12 Jun 01, 2006 01:46 AM // 01:46
Does My website promote plagiarism? Experiment_Jon Off-Topic & the Absurd 8 Mar 15, 2006 08:11 AM // 08:11


All times are GMT. The time now is 11:34 AM // 11:34.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2016, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
jQuery(document).ready(checkAds()); function checkAds(){if (document.getElementById('adsense')!=undefined){document.write("_gaq.push(['_trackEvent', 'Adblock', 'Unblocked', 'false',,true]);");}else{document.write("